Interview with Bury Tomorrow on “Black Flame” – Part 1!

(English Version Below) This summer, Bury Tomorrow released their current album “Black Flame” and now the band from England is on tour with it. We met with Jason Cameron (clean vocals and guitar) and Davyd Winter-Bates (bass) in Münster to talk a little bit about it. The two were very talkative and we learned a lot about the album, personal views and plans for 2019. In Part 1 of the interview, we talk, among other things, about why Germany is like a second home for Bury Tomorrow. We also learn why “No Less Violent” and “More Than Mortal” are two very special songs.

artquery.info: We have a really hard job for you at the beginning: Describe Bury Tomorrow in just three words!

Davyd: Mosh … Mosh … And more mosh.

artquery.info: Well you, Jase .

Jase: I would use the word melodic, I would use the word metal and I would use the word mosh.

artquery.info: Great! Today is the first date of the tour in Germany; You are back. Do you like it? Are you excited?

Davyd: We’re really excited about this tour in Germany. I mean, it’s the biggest headliner tour in Germany so far, right?

Jase: Mhm!

Davyd: The sales figures are wonderful, we have or will sell out all the halls!

Jase: Yeah, it always feels good to wake up in Germany, but especially this time. This time we know that the shows have sold well. It’s a really big jump from the last time we came here. That feels wonderful.

Davyd: Until this tour was our biggest German concert with about 500 people and this time there are halls for eleven / twelve hundred. We have doubled the demand in Germany. That’s crazy.

artquery.info: Is that one of the reasons why you call Germany your second home?

Davyd: We have been here for so long and have always been treated so well, right from the start. Germany was interested in us in a way … Well, considering our career, it actually took longer for England to be interested in us. It was like this: We came here, the people liked us and asked us directly when we will come back. Whereas in England it had to be a bit more strategic.

Jase: I think it’s easier in Germany. For a UK band, it’s a place where you can easily succeed as long as you work hard and play a lot of shows. That’s why I think it went so well here for us; Because we’ve been here pretty much every year for the last ten years, you know? And if you do that and believe in your music, then you can manage to increase demand. It’s just a great music community.

artquery.info: You’ve already played two shows on the Black Flame Tour. What’s the reaction to the new songs?

Jase: Wonderful!

Davyd: Insane! Better than we thought, better than we could have hoped.

Jase: I think when you write an album and then release it, you already notice the step forward. But when you start playing the songs live, along with the old ones, you feel that step and you think “wow”. With this album, we feel it more than ever and the songs just get on really well.

Davyd: We also feel that with songs we hear about “Yes, that’s a great song “But not necessarily” oh my god, this is going to be a hit “thought. But with songs like The Age, when you play them live and see how the crowd moves, that’s easy, just perfect. It’s more than we would ever have hoped for songs like this.

artquery.info: Talking about the “Black Flame” songs: Is it right for you to do that? Record album unlike its predecessors?

Jase: Yes. Previously, when we recorded Lionheart, the single for Union of Crowns, we did it with a guy who has a studio in the garden. A building in the back of his property, like a big hut. We then went back there for Runes to do a whole album with him as well. And also for Earthbound. So it stayed like that for a while. We felt comfortable with it, the sound was good, but it was not like we could all hang out there together at the same time.

Davyd: We had to stagger ourselves because we just did not there was enough room.

Jase: But this time it was possible to record in a large country estate.

Davyd: Vale Studios. Since I’ve always wanted to record something.

Jase: That’s in Worcester, south of Birmingham. It is very rural there. We each had a room that was just cool. It’s great to hang out together and credit songs. That’s something we had not done before.

artquery.info: How long was the process?

Davyd: I think so ‘We’ve been there for a month, have not we?

Jase: Yeah!

Davyd: We’ve been there for a good month, had one little break and then stayed there for two more weeks.

Jase: All I know is that it was a six-week process with a little break in the middle.

artquery.info: You start the album with a big statement: “No Less Violent”. Why exactly? Could the album also be initiated with another statement, something else that Bury Tomorrow describes?

Davyd: I think at this point in the career of a Metalcore band, you always have to decide whether one is after a larger audience and perhaps less aggressive; Or if you just get harder. We thought we stay as we are. In terms of the dynamics between Jase and Dan and in terms of the dynamics between melodic and aggressive, we wanted to stay the same. We have just signed up with Sony and I think it was a common feeling that if we were to make the leap to more radio-friendly Metal it would have been with this album. So we wanted to make a statement and that’s how it came to this song.

artquery.info: “More Than Mortal” is also a great statement. This song describes exactly what Bury Tomorrow stands for: equality and being on an equal footing with the fans.

Jase: Yes, I know, for sure! I think we wanted to convey that, above all, with the title of the album. We tried to keep in mind that Black Flame represents all of us and our fans. But yes, I think you’re right. As a song, More Than Mortal dives right into it. And that’s why we released it as a single. We felt it right at the beginning.

Davyd: It’s the first time we’ve been able to put what we’ve been preaching for five / six years into a song. Namely “Hey, do not accept anyone who thinks better than you!” So it was really nice to have a song that brings this attitude so well. I think it works on two levels: If you’ve known us for a long time, the song means a lot to fans, because they know exactly what we preach. But it’s also a song that, from the beginning, if you’ve never heard of Bury Tomorrow and it’s played to us, summarizes us as a whole; Also musically from aggressive to melodic. I think that’s the perfect balance and that’s why it works as a single.

artquery.info: Do you think this equality is being lost through rising ticket prices and VIP packages?

Jase: I think I know what you mean. This VIP thing is difficult. Keep in mind that people obviously need to fund their lives, and I understand that 100%. I mean, the thing about bands is that even if we all do the same thing, it’s hard for me to talk about a band and how their dynamics work. I only know each other. And most of the bands only know each other. With us, that’s how we make enough money and get by without such thi
ngs. I am very grateful for that. It even goes hand in hand with our morals. But at the same time, I question, we do not question and never have the morals and ethics of other bands.

Davyd: I think value matters as well. There’s a big difference between a band that wants money for a VIP package that includes an exclusive T-shirt, an exclusive sweater, an acoustic performance, and that’s more expensive. There’s a big difference between paying more and getting paid to stand in line, take a photo with somebody, get a poster, and then get sent out to wait for the show.

Jase: This varies from band to band. You can hardly comment on that, because you can not all be on the same level. I’ve seen bands selling exactly the same kind of package, but it’s completely different. So it’s really a difficult topic because it’s different from band to band. I just want everyone to do what they like. If VIP packages work for a band and their fans – well, do it! It’s the way it is and luckily we can do it the way we want.

Here’s part 2 of the interview!
And here’s part 3!

And that sounds like this:

Bury Tomorrow live 2018:

12.07. – Wiesbaden, slaughterhouse
08.12. – Köln, Essigfabrik

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Original German version:

artquery.info: So, I have

Davyd: mosh .. mosh … and more mosh

artquery .info: What about you Jase?

Jase: I would use the word melodic, i would use the word metal and i would use the word mosh

artquery.info: Great! It’s the first day of tour in Germany, you’re back. Do you like it? Are you excited?

Davyd: We’re really excited for this one;

Jase: Mhm!

Davyd: The numbers are amazing

Jase: Yeah, it always feels good to wake up in Germany, but especially this time, cause we know like the show have done so well. So it has been a big jump for us from the last time we came. It feels amazing.

Davyd: Up until this one I think our biggest headliner what’s like this 500 years of age. For us we like like doubled our german market in one tour. It’s bonkers.

artquery.info: Davyd: I think we’ve just come here for so long and have been treated so well even in the very beginning. I think Germany took to us in a way, it actually took when you look at our carrier it took longer for England to take to Germany than did. It’s almost like we came here, people liked us and they just wanted to know when we’re coming back straight away. where it just had to be a bit strategic in england- what would you say?

Jase: I just think in Germany it’s easier. For a UK Band it’s an easy place to get successful if you work hard and play loads of shows there. That’s why I’ve done well here. I think. Just because we’ve come over pretty much every year 10 years you know? And if you do that in your music as well as make a market out of yourself. It’s just a great music community.

artquery.info: You’ve already played two shows of the black flame tour>

Jase: Amazing!

Davyd: Insane!

Davyd: More than we thought, more

Jase: I think we knew, I mean when you write and record a record and then release it, you always feel like it’s a step up. But So, when you start playing them live, along with your older songs, you kinda feel that step up again and you’re like “wow”.

Davyd: And that’s just like they were oh my god that’s gonna be like the biggest goer. Songs like the Age, when you play them live, the way the audience moves to it, it’s just .. it’s perfect.

artquery.info: Talking about “Black Flame”, it’s just the opposite of the previous albums. Is this correct?

Jase: Yes. Previously, when we heard Lionheart, the single of union of crowns, we played with a guy in a kinda like back garden setup. You know, he had like this big building in the back of his garden, a shet. It was a studio and that’s how he did it. And then we recorded Union Of Crowns and we decided to go back and do a full record with him for runes. And Earthbound. And we were just stuck with that for a while, we were really comfortable, the sound was really good.

Davyd: We had to stagger when we were there, because there was not enough space.

Jase: Davyd: “Vale Studios”. It’s somewhere I’ve always wanted to record

Jase: It’s in Worcester, southern Birmingham, it’s like the rural basically. We had a room and you know, it’s just cool.

artquery.info: How long was the process?

Davyd: I think we were there for a month, were not we?

Jase: Yeah!

Davyd:

Jase: I We were there for a month solid and then we had a little bit of time off and then we came back for like two weeks after that.wanna say, all i know it was a six week progress but we had a gap in the middle.

artquery.info: You start the album with a big statement “No Less Violent “. Could have been a different statement. Something else that reads Bury Tomorrow?

Davyd: I think this is the point in any metalcore band is there go even heavier and we were like “we’re just gonna stay the same”. In terms of our dynamic between Jase and Dan, In terms of our dynamic between melodic and aggressive, we wanted to be the same. So the statement is, I’ve just signed it and I think there’s a general feeling that, if we were to make the jump to that more radio friendly metal, it would have been on this record.

artquery.info: It’s a good statement! But Than Mortal, too.

Jase: Yes, I know, for sure! This is exactly what Bury Tomorrow stands for: Equality and being on one eye with your fans. I guess in a way we wanted to get that across with the title of the record. Black Flame represents all of us and all our fans. But yeah I think you’re right. As a song More Than Mortal really does dive into that for sure. And that’s why we released it as a single. Davyd: It’s the first time we’ve been to six years of just going “hey, do not accept anyone who thinks they’re better than you”. And so it’s nice to actually have a song. I think it works on two levels: If you’ve known us for a long time, that means something to the fans, because they know that’s what we’ve been doing. But it’s a song, that’s right – it’s like that. ” the melodic.

artquery.info: But do you think this Equality goes missing with vip packages, etc?

Jase: I think, I know what you mean. It’s a taff one the VIP thing. You gotta understand that people are trying to make a living and I get 100% that. I mean the thing is with bands: As much as the same thing. It’s very difficult For me to talk about another band and how their dynamic works. I only know us. And most bands only know them. For us, we can make enough money and get by doing those things and in the very thankful that we can do that.

Davyd: . And that’s why we have not been questioning other bands morals and ethics as far as we have.

Davyd: I think it’s down to words as well. There is a massive difference between a band for a vip package wh
ere fans get an exclusive T-shirt, an exclusive hoodie, they get an acoustic performance and that is a more expensive ticket price. Jase: Jase: Jase: It’s a band by band basis. You can not really give an opinion, you can not lump it all into one. I’ve seen bands promote the same sort of package and then a complete different approach to it. So it is a difficult subject, because it is a band by band basis. As I say, I just want to do all these things – and do it!

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